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Christina said in April 4th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Fr. Ringley sure was busy on Good Friday….he was the main celebrant at St. Stanislaus at 12:00. He must have sped down for the St. Mary's service…

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Christina said in April 4th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Fr. Ringley sure was busy on Good Friday….he was the main celebrant at St. Stanislaus at 12:00. He must have sped down for the St. Mary's service…

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Christina said in April 4th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Fr. Ringley sure was busy on Good Friday….he was the main celebrant at St. Stanislaus at 12:00. He must have sped down for the St. Mary's service…

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Anonymous said in April 5th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

If one can 'tweak' the rite by having 'Vexilla Regis', the position of the ministers at the Solemn prayers, keeping black for the Communion service rather than changing into violet as per the rubrics of OHSI why not go all the way and do the fully traditional rite?

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Anonymous said in April 5th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

If one can 'tweak' the rite by having 'Vexilla Regis', the position of the ministers at the Solemn prayers, keeping black for the Communion service rather than changing into violet as per the rubrics of OHSI why not go all the way and do the fully traditional rite?

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Anonymous said in April 5th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

If one can 'tweak' the rite by having 'Vexilla Regis', the position of the ministers at the Solemn prayers, keeping black for the Communion service rather than changing into violet as per the rubrics of OHSI why not go all the way and do the fully traditional rite?

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JGKester said in April 6th, 2010 at 7:59 am

Dear 'Anonymous,'
The simple answer to your question is because the Church asks us to conform to a certain rite; we do not do so, however, in a void, unaware of the tradition nor of the intentions of certain men, formed by their times, who desired to sweep things away. To opt for the 'Vexilla Regis instaed of the three antiphons in OHS, though not exactly 'praeter legem' could also not be considered stricly 'contra legem' and certainly not contra traditionem' Nowhere has the Roman Rite EVER been carried out in strict uniformity, nor has the mind of the Church ever, outside of some in very recent times, sought strict uniformity. Finally I would have to say that practical considerations always weigh in, as anyone who has ever been on the inside, especially of a service lasting over 3 hours, certainly knows. Let us instead be thankful that things like this are even occuring, and pray that we who love the tradition don't end up being our own undoing.
-JGP

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JGKester said in April 6th, 2010 at 7:59 am

Dear 'Anonymous,'
The simple answer to your question is because the Church asks us to conform to a certain rite; we do not do so, however, in a void, unaware of the tradition nor of the intentions of certain men, formed by their times, who desired to sweep things away. To opt for the 'Vexilla Regis instaed of the three antiphons in OHS, though not exactly 'praeter legem' could also not be considered stricly 'contra legem' and certainly not contra traditionem' Nowhere has the Roman Rite EVER been carried out in strict uniformity, nor has the mind of the Church ever, outside of some in very recent times, sought strict uniformity. Finally I would have to say that practical considerations always weigh in, as anyone who has ever been on the inside, especially of a service lasting over 3 hours, certainly knows. Let us instead be thankful that things like this are even occuring, and pray that we who love the tradition don't end up being our own undoing.
-JGP

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JGKester said in April 6th, 2010 at 7:59 am

Dear 'Anonymous,'
The simple answer to your question is because the Church asks us to conform to a certain rite; we do not do so, however, in a void, unaware of the tradition nor of the intentions of certain men, formed by their times, who desired to sweep things away. To opt for the 'Vexilla Regis instaed of the three antiphons in OHS, though not exactly 'praeter legem' could also not be considered stricly 'contra legem' and certainly not contra traditionem' Nowhere has the Roman Rite EVER been carried out in strict uniformity, nor has the mind of the Church ever, outside of some in very recent times, sought strict uniformity. Finally I would have to say that practical considerations always weigh in, as anyone who has ever been on the inside, especially of a service lasting over 3 hours, certainly knows. Let us instead be thankful that things like this are even occuring, and pray that we who love the tradition don't end up being our own undoing.
-JGP

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Anonymous said in April 7th, 2010 at 4:24 am

JGKester,

I agree with much that you say, and speak as one who has been very much 'on the inside' this year and for many years.

Perhaps next year the developing balance of praeter legem and contra legem custom will allow black planetis plicatis.

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Anonymous said in April 7th, 2010 at 4:24 am

JGKester,

I agree with much that you say, and speak as one who has been very much 'on the inside' this year and for many years.

Perhaps next year the developing balance of praeter legem and contra legem custom will allow black planetis plicatis.

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Anonymous said in April 7th, 2010 at 4:24 am

JGKester,

I agree with much that you say, and speak as one who has been very much 'on the inside' this year and for many years.

Perhaps next year the developing balance of praeter legem and contra legem custom will allow black planetis plicatis.

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Peter said in April 14th, 2010 at 10:04 am

Has any attempt ever been made after the motu proprio to ask Rome simply to grant permission to use the old Holy Week?

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Peter said in April 14th, 2010 at 10:04 am

Has any attempt ever been made after the motu proprio to ask Rome simply to grant permission to use the old Holy Week?

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Peter said in April 14th, 2010 at 10:04 am

Has any attempt ever been made after the motu proprio to ask Rome simply to grant permission to use the old Holy Week?

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